republicans have been so focused on susan rice and the benghazi incident, no one has put any focus on hillary clinton. is that going to help her? >> hillary clinton has been very adept at making sure she had no fingerprints on the benghazi fiasco or any part of it. no, it won't help. what josh is getting at there is we have a very polarized political system where we're no longer the country where people could rally to "i like ike" because he was a figure outside politics. what you're seeing in that poll is, one, a name recognition effect, and, two, a lot of republicans who remember the 2008 hillary clinton versus barack obama fight. barack obama won, so they liked hillary clinton. if hillary clinton had won in 2008, you would hear lots of republicans saying, none of this would be happening if that idealistic barack obama had won instead. if hillary clinton is the nominee in 2016, this will be an election decided by three or four percentage points. it will not be a 57/30 election. >> it always tightens. i'm curious about the other side since you're talking about 2008. marco rubio and p